Model comparison
C4ai Aya Expanse 8b vs Qwen Max
C4ai Aya Expanse 8b and Qwen Max score almost the same on the Noometry Index (34.9 vs 34.7), so choose on price, context window or the category you care about most.
Last verified . 14 shared benchmarks.
Cohere
Alibaba (Qwen)Summary
- They share 14 benchmarks with published results for both. C4ai Aya Expanse 8b scores higher in 3 categories and Qwen Max in 5 categories; 8 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
- The widest gap is in math, where C4ai Aya Expanse 8b leads 33.3 to 22.3.
- C4ai Aya Expanse 8b has downloadable open weights; the other is API-only.
Side by side
| C4ai Aya Expanse 8b | Qwen Max | |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | Cohere | Alibaba (Qwen) |
| Noometry Index | 34.9 | 34.7 |
| Released | — | 2024-04-03 |
| Weights | Open | Proprietary |
| Context window | — | 33K |
| Max output | — | 8K |
| Input $ / M tokens | — | $1.60 |
| Output $ / M tokens | — | $6.40 |
| Results tracked | 15 | 23 |
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Category by category
Coding C4ai Aya Expanse 8b leads
C4ai Aya Expanse 8b: 33.8 (#252), Qwen Max: 30.7 (#292)
| Benchmark | C4ai Aya Expanse 8b | Qwen Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Coding | 1160 | 1288 |
| Aider Polyglot | — | 21.8% |
Reasoning Qwen Max leads
C4ai Aya Expanse 8b: 22.4 (#197), Qwen Max: 25.1 (#151)
| Benchmark | C4ai Aya Expanse 8b | Qwen Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Hard Prompts | 1156 | 1269 |
Math C4ai Aya Expanse 8b leads
C4ai Aya Expanse 8b: 33.3 (#203), Qwen Max: 22.3 (#276)
| Benchmark | C4ai Aya Expanse 8b | Qwen Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Math | 1168 | 1275 |
| OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025 | — | 16.1% |
| MATH Level 5 | — | 67.2% |
| FrontierMath (Feb 2025 set) | — | 1% |
Knowledge C4ai Aya Expanse 8b leads
C4ai Aya Expanse 8b: 33.6 (#201), Qwen Max: 30.3 (#228)
| Benchmark | C4ai Aya Expanse 8b | Qwen Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Expert | 1153 | 1248 |
| GPQA Diamond | — | 56.1% |
| Vectara Hallucination Rate | 9.5% | — |
Multilingual Qwen Max leads
C4ai Aya Expanse 8b: 36.1 (#242), Qwen Max: 41.8 (#202)
| Benchmark | C4ai Aya Expanse 8b | Qwen Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | 1180 | 1263 |
| LMArena Chinese | 1181 | 1254 |
| LMArena German | 1188 | 1254 |
| LMArena Japanese | 1120 | 1205 |
| LMArena Russian | 1197 | 1274 |
| LMArena French | — | 1330 |
| LMArena Korean | — | 1142 |
| LMArena Spanish | — | 1290 |
Instruction Following Qwen Max leads
C4ai Aya Expanse 8b: 60.1 (#253), Qwen Max: 66.5 (#208)
| Benchmark | C4ai Aya Expanse 8b | Qwen Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | 1155 | 1262 |
Long Context Qwen Max leads
C4ai Aya Expanse 8b: 36.1 (#236), Qwen Max: 39.4 (#180)
| Benchmark | C4ai Aya Expanse 8b | Qwen Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Longer Query | 1191 | 1288 |
| Fiction.LiveBench | — | 66.7% |
Writing & Preference Qwen Max leads
C4ai Aya Expanse 8b: 39.0 (#250), Qwen Max: 47.8 (#205)
| Benchmark | C4ai Aya Expanse 8b | Qwen Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | 1185 | 1282 |
| LMArena Creative Writing | 1168 | 1248 |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | 1160 | 1277 |
Frequently asked questions
Is C4ai Aya Expanse 8b better than Qwen Max?
C4ai Aya Expanse 8b and Qwen Max score almost the same on the Noometry Index (34.9 vs 34.7), so choose on price, context window or the category you care about most.
Is C4ai Aya Expanse 8b or Qwen Max better for coding?
C4ai Aya Expanse 8b scores higher on coding benchmarks: 33.8 versus 30.7 in the Noometry coding category.
How many benchmarks do C4ai Aya Expanse 8b and Qwen Max share?
14 benchmarks have published results for both models. C4ai Aya Expanse 8b has 15 scored results on Noometry and Qwen Max has 23.