Noometry

Model comparison

Gemini 3.8 Flash vs Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct

Gemini 3.8 Flash is the stronger model overall, scoring 61.8 to 29.9 on the Noometry Index.

Last verified . 1 shared benchmarks.

Gemini 3.8 Flash Google

61.8

Rank #11 Confirmed

Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct Alibaba (Qwen)

29.9

Rank #302 Confirmed

Summary

  • They share 1 benchmark with published results for both. Gemini 3.8 Flash scores higher in 3 categories and Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct in 0 categories; 3 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
  • The widest gap is in reasoning, where Gemini 3.8 Flash leads 76.9 to 20.7.
  • Gemini 3.8 Flash is cheaper at $0.75 / $3.75 per million input/output tokens, against $2.80 / $8.40 for Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct.
  • Gemini 3.8 Flash accepts more context: 1.05M tokens versus 131K.
  • Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct has downloadable open weights; the other is API-only.

Side by side

Gemini 3.8 FlashQwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct
ProviderGoogleAlibaba (Qwen)
Noometry Index61.829.9
Released2026-09-022024-09
WeightsProprietaryOpen
Context window1.05M131K
Max output66K8K
Input $ / M tokens$0.75$2.80
Output $ / M tokens$3.75$8.40
Results tracked506

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Category by category

Coding Not comparable

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 59.2 (#15), Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct: —

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct
DeepSWE73.8%—
FrontierCode41.2%—
CursorBench39.6%—
LMArena WebDev1584—
FrontierSWE19.6%—
SciCode56.6%—
WeirdML84.8%—
LMArena Coding1510—
ALE-Bench1,270—

Agentic & Tool Use Gemini 3.8 Flash leads

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 41.8 (#21), Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct: 18.6 (#144)

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct
APEX-Agents64.3%—
Remote Labor Index5.8%—
OSWorld—5%
GDP.pdf23.4%—
Vending-Bench 25,094—

Reasoning Gemini 3.8 Flash leads

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 76.9 (#5), Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct: 20.7 (#233)

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct
ARC-AGI-289.2%—
Kagi LLM Benchmark—36%
NYT Connections (extended)97.4%—
ARC-AGI-198.5%—
CritPt18.3%—
Chess Puzzles61%—
LMArena Hard Prompts1508—
Mystery Game Puzzles47%—
DTBench95.7%—
LMCA52.9%—
Surface Evolver Bench76.9%—
Epoch Capabilities Index156.71—

Math Not comparable

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 65.3 (#28), Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct: —

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct
FrontierMath (Tiers 1-3)68.4%—
FrontierMath Tier 422%—
OTIS Mock AIME 2024-202598.9%—
ProofBench48%—
LMArena Math1528—

Knowledge Not comparable

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 74.8 (#2), Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct: —

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct
GPQA Diamond95.4%—
Humanity's Last Exam44.5%—
SimpleQA Verified69.7%—
LMArena Expert1524—

Multimodal Gemini 3.8 Flash leads

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 40.7 (#45), Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct: 33.5 (#97)

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct
LMArena Vision13141107
Video-MME—73.5%
GeoBench—62%
Blueprint-Bench 238.6%—
Furniture Assembly31.7%—
SpatialViz-Bench—33.3%

Multilingual Not comparable

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 58.0 (#5), Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct: —

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct
LMArena Non-English1491—
LMArena Chinese1554—
LMArena French1498—
LMArena German1493—
LMArena Japanese1502—
LMArena Korean1459—
LMArena Russian1515—
LMArena Spanish1485—

Instruction Following Not comparable

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 78.0 (#13), Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct: —

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct
LMArena Instruction Following1490—

Long Context Not comparable

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 46.3 (#24), Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct: —

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct
LMArena Longer Query1508—

Writing & Preference Not comparable

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 72.2 (#15), Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct: —

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct
LMArena Text1499—
LMArena Creative Writing1492—
EQ-Bench Creative Writing1748—
LMArena Multi-Turn1501—

Frequently asked questions

Is Gemini 3.8 Flash better than Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct?

Gemini 3.8 Flash is the stronger model overall, scoring 61.8 to 29.9 on the Noometry Index.

Which is cheaper, Gemini 3.8 Flash or Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct?

Gemini 3.8 Flash is cheaper. It lists at $0.75 per million input tokens and $3.75 per million output tokens; Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct lists at $2.80 and $8.40.

Which has the bigger context window?

Gemini 3.8 Flash does, with 1.05M tokens against 131K.

How many benchmarks do Gemini 3.8 Flash and Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct share?

1 benchmark has published results for both models. Gemini 3.8 Flash has 50 scored results on Noometry and Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct has 6.

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