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Model comparison

Gemini 3.8 Flash vs Qwen3.8 Max

Gemini 3.8 Flash is the stronger model overall, scoring 61.8 to 56.8 on the Noometry Index.

Last verified . 38 shared benchmarks.

Gemini 3.8 Flash Google

61.8

Rank #11 Confirmed

Qwen3.8 Max Alibaba (Qwen)

56.8

Rank #22 Confirmed

Summary

  • They share 38 benchmarks with published results for both. Gemini 3.8 Flash scores higher in 8 categories and Qwen3.8 Max in 2 categories; 8 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
  • The widest gap is in reasoning, where Gemini 3.8 Flash leads 76.9 to 54.4.
  • The biggest single-benchmark swing is FrontierMath Tier 4: 22% for Gemini 3.8 Flash and 46.3% for Qwen3.8 Max.
  • Gemini 3.8 Flash is cheaper at $0.75 / $3.75 per million input/output tokens, against $2 / $6 for Qwen3.8 Max.
  • Gemini 3.8 Flash accepts more context: 1.05M tokens versus 1M.

Side by side

Gemini 3.8 FlashQwen3.8 Max
ProviderGoogleAlibaba (Qwen)
Noometry Index61.856.8
Released2026-09-022026-08-02
WeightsProprietaryProprietary
Context window1.05M1M
Max output66K131K
Input $ / M tokens$0.75$2
Output $ / M tokens$3.75$6
Results tracked5039

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Category by category

Coding Gemini 3.8 Flash leads

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 59.2 (#15), Qwen3.8 Max: 53.5 (#29)

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen3.8 Max
DeepSWE73.8%57.5%
LMArena WebDev15841674
FrontierSWE19.6%17.8%
SciCode56.6%53.2%
LMArena Coding15101502
FrontierCode41.2%—
CursorBench39.6%—
WeirdML84.8%—
ALE-Bench1,270—

Agentic & Tool Use Qwen3.8 Max leads

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 41.8 (#21), Qwen3.8 Max: 45.4 (#14)

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen3.8 Max
APEX-Agents64.3%63.3%
GDP.pdf23.4%23.2%
Remote Labor Index5.8%—
τ²-bench Banking—55.1%
Vending-Bench 25,094—

Reasoning Gemini 3.8 Flash leads

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 76.9 (#5), Qwen3.8 Max: 54.4 (#26)

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen3.8 Max
NYT Connections (extended)97.4%88.3%
CritPt18.3%20%
Chess Puzzles61%40%
LMArena Hard Prompts15081496
Mystery Game Puzzles47%38%
DTBench95.7%92%
LMCA52.9%46.2%
Epoch Capabilities Index156.71156.41
ARC-AGI-289.2%—
ARC-AGI-198.5%—
Surface Evolver Bench76.9%—

Math Qwen3.8 Max leads

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 65.3 (#28), Qwen3.8 Max: 73.2 (#20)

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen3.8 Max
FrontierMath (Tiers 1-3)68.4%74.7%
FrontierMath Tier 422%46.3%
OTIS Mock AIME 2024-202598.9%100%
ProofBench48%58%
LMArena Math15281499

Knowledge Gemini 3.8 Flash leads

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 74.8 (#2), Qwen3.8 Max: 61.7 (#27)

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen3.8 Max
GPQA Diamond95.4%92.7%
SimpleQA Verified69.7%47.3%
LMArena Expert15241507
Humanity's Last Exam44.5%—

Multimodal Gemini 3.8 Flash leads

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 40.7 (#45), Qwen3.8 Max: 37.2 (#75)

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Vision13141314
Furniture Assembly31.7%20%
Blueprint-Bench 238.6%—

Multilingual Gemini 3.8 Flash leads

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 58.0 (#5), Qwen3.8 Max: 56.7 (#18)

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Non-English14911472
LMArena Chinese15541538
LMArena French14981503
LMArena German14931483
LMArena Japanese15021467
LMArena Korean14591461
LMArena Russian15151481
LMArena Spanish14851492

Instruction Following Too close to call

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 78.0 (#13), Qwen3.8 Max: 77.6 (#17)

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Instruction Following14901479

Long Context Too close to call

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 46.3 (#24), Qwen3.8 Max: 45.6 (#31)

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Longer Query15081489

Writing & Preference Gemini 3.8 Flash leads

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 72.2 (#15), Qwen3.8 Max: 67.1 (#30)

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Text14991483
LMArena Creative Writing14921479
LMArena Multi-Turn15011489
EQ-Bench Creative Writing1748—

Frequently asked questions

Is Gemini 3.8 Flash better than Qwen3.8 Max?

Gemini 3.8 Flash is the stronger model overall, scoring 61.8 to 56.8 on the Noometry Index.

Which is cheaper, Gemini 3.8 Flash or Qwen3.8 Max?

Gemini 3.8 Flash is cheaper. It lists at $0.75 per million input tokens and $3.75 per million output tokens; Qwen3.8 Max lists at $2 and $6.

Is Gemini 3.8 Flash or Qwen3.8 Max better for coding?

Gemini 3.8 Flash scores higher on coding benchmarks: 59.2 versus 53.5 in the Noometry coding category.

Which has the bigger context window?

Gemini 3.8 Flash does, with 1.05M tokens against 1M.

How many benchmarks do Gemini 3.8 Flash and Qwen3.8 Max share?

38 benchmarks have published results for both models. Gemini 3.8 Flash has 50 scored results on Noometry and Qwen3.8 Max has 39.

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