Noometry

Model comparison

Gemini 4 Argon vs Qwen3.8 Max

Gemini 4 Argon and Qwen3.8 Max score almost the same on the Noometry Index (56.5 vs 56.8), so choose on price, context window or the category you care about most.

Last verified . 19 shared benchmarks.

Gemini 4 Argon Google

56.5

Rank #24 Confirmed

Qwen3.8 Max Alibaba (Qwen)

56.8

Rank #22 Confirmed

Summary

  • They share 19 benchmarks with published results for both. Gemini 4 Argon scores higher in 8 categories and Qwen3.8 Max in 2 categories; 9 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
  • The widest gap is in knowledge, where Qwen3.8 Max leads 61.7 to 43.9.
  • The biggest single-benchmark swing is ProofBench: 99% for Gemini 4 Argon and 58% for Qwen3.8 Max.

Side by side

Gemini 4 ArgonQwen3.8 Max
ProviderGoogleAlibaba (Qwen)
Noometry Index56.556.8
Released2026-09-302026-08-02
WeightsProprietaryProprietary
Context window—1M
Max output—131K
Input $ / M tokens—$2
Output $ / M tokens—$6
Results tracked2139

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Category by category

Coding Gemini 4 Argon leads

Gemini 4 Argon: 62.0 (#9), Qwen3.8 Max: 53.5 (#29)

BenchmarkGemini 4 ArgonQwen3.8 Max
LMArena WebDev16781674
FrontierSWE55%17.8%
SciCode61.8%53.2%
LMArena Coding15501502
DeepSWE—57.5%

Agentic & Tool Use Gemini 4 Argon leads

Gemini 4 Argon: 49.2 (#8), Qwen3.8 Max: 45.4 (#14)

BenchmarkGemini 4 ArgonQwen3.8 Max
APEX-Agents82.2%63.3%
τ²-bench Banking—55.1%
GDP.pdf—23.2%
Vending-Bench 213,718—

Reasoning Qwen3.8 Max leads

Gemini 4 Argon: 44.2 (#47), Qwen3.8 Max: 54.4 (#26)

BenchmarkGemini 4 ArgonQwen3.8 Max
CritPt27.1%20%
LMArena Hard Prompts15481496
NYT Connections (extended)—88.3%
Chess Puzzles—40%
Mystery Game Puzzles—38%
DTBench—92%
LMCA—46.2%
Epoch Capabilities Index—156.41

Math Too close to call

Gemini 4 Argon: 73.9 (#17), Qwen3.8 Max: 73.2 (#20)

BenchmarkGemini 4 ArgonQwen3.8 Max
ProofBench99%58%
LMArena Math15361499
FrontierMath (Tiers 1-3)—74.7%
FrontierMath Tier 4—46.3%
OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025—100%

Knowledge Qwen3.8 Max leads

Gemini 4 Argon: 43.9 (#89), Qwen3.8 Max: 61.7 (#27)

BenchmarkGemini 4 ArgonQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Expert15531507
GPQA Diamond—92.7%
SimpleQA Verified—47.3%

Multimodal Gemini 4 Argon leads

Gemini 4 Argon: 46.5 (#14), Qwen3.8 Max: 37.2 (#75)

BenchmarkGemini 4 ArgonQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Vision—1314
Blueprint-Bench 254.4%—
Furniture Assembly—20%

Multilingual Gemini 4 Argon leads

Gemini 4 Argon: 60.3 (#1), Qwen3.8 Max: 56.7 (#18)

BenchmarkGemini 4 ArgonQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Non-English15231472
LMArena Chinese16101538
LMArena Russian15371481
LMArena Spanish14971492
LMArena French—1503
LMArena German—1483
LMArena Japanese—1467
LMArena Korean—1461

Instruction Following Gemini 4 Argon leads

Gemini 4 Argon: 80.1 (#2), Qwen3.8 Max: 77.6 (#17)

BenchmarkGemini 4 ArgonQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Instruction Following15381479

Long Context Gemini 4 Argon leads

Gemini 4 Argon: 47.6 (#15), Qwen3.8 Max: 45.6 (#31)

BenchmarkGemini 4 ArgonQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Longer Query15491489

Writing & Preference Gemini 4 Argon leads

Gemini 4 Argon: 71.4 (#19), Qwen3.8 Max: 67.1 (#30)

BenchmarkGemini 4 ArgonQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Text15341483
LMArena Creative Writing15311479
LMArena Multi-Turn15571489

Frequently asked questions

Is Gemini 4 Argon better than Qwen3.8 Max?

Gemini 4 Argon and Qwen3.8 Max score almost the same on the Noometry Index (56.5 vs 56.8), so choose on price, context window or the category you care about most.

Is Gemini 4 Argon or Qwen3.8 Max better for coding?

Gemini 4 Argon scores higher on coding benchmarks: 62.0 versus 53.5 in the Noometry coding category.

How many benchmarks do Gemini 4 Argon and Qwen3.8 Max share?

19 benchmarks have published results for both models. Gemini 4 Argon has 21 scored results on Noometry and Qwen3.8 Max has 39.

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