Model comparison

Gemma 2 9B vs Qwen3.8 Max

Qwen3.8 Max is the stronger model overall, scoring 56.8 to 25.9 on the Noometry Index.

Last verified . 20 shared benchmarks.

Gemma 2 9B Google

25.9

Rank #341 Confirmed

Qwen3.8 Max Alibaba (Qwen)

56.8

Rank #22 Confirmed

Summary

  • They share 20 benchmarks with published results for both. Gemma 2 9B scores higher in 0 categories and Qwen3.8 Max in 8 categories; 8 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
  • The widest gap is in math, where Qwen3.8 Max leads 73.2 to 9.9.
  • The biggest single-benchmark swing is OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025: 0.6% for Gemma 2 9B and 100% for Qwen3.8 Max.
  • Gemma 2 9B has downloadable open weights; the other is API-only.

Side by side

Gemma 2 9B and Qwen3.8 Max specifications
Gemma 2 9BQwen3.8 Max
ProviderGoogleAlibaba (Qwen)
Noometry Index25.956.8
Released2024-06-242026-08-02
WeightsOpenProprietary
Context window—1M
Max output—131K
Input $ / M tokens—$2
Output $ / M tokens—$6
Results tracked3539

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Category by category

Coding Qwen3.8 Max leads

Gemma 2 9B: 29.4 (#304), Qwen3.8 Max: 53.5 (#29)

Coding benchmarks
BenchmarkGemma 2 9BQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Coding11731502
DeepSWE—57.5%
LMArena WebDev—1674
FrontierSWE—17.8%
SciCode—53.2%
BigCodeBench Instruct34.7%—
LiveBench Coding22.5%—
BigCodeBench Complete40.6%—

Agentic & Tool Use Not comparable

Gemma 2 9B: —, Qwen3.8 Max: 45.4 (#14)

Agentic & Tool Use benchmarks
BenchmarkGemma 2 9BQwen3.8 Max
APEX-Agents—63.3%
τ²-bench Banking—55.1%
GDP.pdf—23.2%

Reasoning Qwen3.8 Max leads

Gemma 2 9B: 15.9 (#309), Qwen3.8 Max: 54.4 (#26)

Reasoning benchmarks
BenchmarkGemma 2 9BQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Hard Prompts11711496
Epoch Capabilities Index119.83156.41
NYT Connections (extended)—88.3%
CritPt—20%
Chess Puzzles—40%
LiveBench Reasoning15.2%—
Mystery Game Puzzles—38%
DTBench—92%
LiveBench Data Analysis36.4%—
LMCA—46.2%
LiveBench28.7%—
PIQA83.7%—

Math Qwen3.8 Max leads

Gemma 2 9B: 9.9 (#318), Qwen3.8 Max: 73.2 (#20)

Math benchmarks
BenchmarkGemma 2 9BQwen3.8 Max
OTIS Mock AIME 2024-20250.6%100%
LMArena Math11831499
FrontierMath (Tiers 1-3)—74.7%
FrontierMath Tier 4—46.3%
ProofBench—58%
LiveBench Math19.8%—
MATH Level 521%—
GSM8K84.9%—

Knowledge Qwen3.8 Max leads

Gemma 2 9B: 9.7 (#305), Qwen3.8 Max: 61.7 (#27)

Knowledge benchmarks
BenchmarkGemma 2 9BQwen3.8 Max
GPQA Diamond27.5%92.7%
LMArena Expert11471507
SimpleQA Verified—47.3%
BoolQ85.7%—
MMLU72.1%—

Multimodal Not comparable

Gemma 2 9B: —, Qwen3.8 Max: 37.2 (#75)

Multimodal benchmarks
BenchmarkGemma 2 9BQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Vision—1314
Furniture Assembly—20%

Multilingual Qwen3.8 Max leads

Gemma 2 9B: 36.6 (#238), Qwen3.8 Max: 56.7 (#18)

Multilingual benchmarks
BenchmarkGemma 2 9BQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Non-English11881472
LMArena Chinese11851538
LMArena French11901503
LMArena German11861483
LMArena Japanese11441467
LMArena Korean11371461
LMArena Russian12001481
LMArena Spanish12001492

Instruction Following Qwen3.8 Max leads

Gemma 2 9B: 57.6 (#269), Qwen3.8 Max: 77.6 (#17)

Instruction Following benchmarks
BenchmarkGemma 2 9BQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Instruction Following11781479
LiveBench Instruction Following52.6%—

Long Context Qwen3.8 Max leads

Gemma 2 9B: 36.3 (#233), Qwen3.8 Max: 45.6 (#31)

Long Context benchmarks
BenchmarkGemma 2 9BQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Longer Query11971489

Writing & Preference Qwen3.8 Max leads

Gemma 2 9B: 32.1 (#281), Qwen3.8 Max: 67.1 (#30)

Writing & Preference benchmarks
BenchmarkGemma 2 9BQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Text12071483
LMArena Creative Writing12061479
LMArena Multi-Turn11931489
EQ-Bench Creative Writing841—
LiveBench Language25.5%—

Frequently asked questions

Is Gemma 2 9B better than Qwen3.8 Max?

Qwen3.8 Max is the stronger model overall, scoring 56.8 to 25.9 on the Noometry Index.

Is Gemma 2 9B or Qwen3.8 Max better for coding?

Qwen3.8 Max scores higher on coding benchmarks: 53.5 versus 29.4 in the Noometry coding category.

How many benchmarks do Gemma 2 9B and Qwen3.8 Max share?

20 benchmarks have published results for both models. Gemma 2 9B has 35 scored results on Noometry and Qwen3.8 Max has 39.

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