Model comparison
Grok-2 (Dec 2024) vs Qwen3 8B
Grok-2 (Dec 2024) and Qwen3 8B score almost the same on the Noometry Index (33.7 vs 33.7), so choose on price, context window or the category you care about most.
Last verified . 4 shared benchmarks.
Alibaba (Qwen)Summary
- They share 4 benchmarks with published results for both. Grok-2 (Dec 2024) scores higher in 2 categories and Qwen3 8B in 3 categories; 2 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
- The widest gap is in math, where Qwen3 8B leads 34.9 to 20.8.
- The biggest single-benchmark swing is OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025: 11.5% for Grok-2 (Dec 2024) and 56.1% for Qwen3 8B.
- Qwen3 8B has downloadable open weights; the other is API-only.
Side by side
| Grok-2 (Dec 2024) | Qwen3 8B | |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | xAI | Alibaba (Qwen) |
| Noometry Index | 33.7 | 33.7 |
| Released | 2024-08-13 | 2025-04 |
| Weights | Proprietary | Open |
| Context window | — | 131K |
| Max output | — | 8K |
| Input $ / M tokens | — | $0.18 |
| Output $ / M tokens | — | $0.70 |
| Results tracked | 34 | 11 |
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Category by category
Coding Too close to call
Grok-2 (Dec 2024): 33.3 (#258), Qwen3 8B: 34.0 (#248)
| Benchmark | Grok-2 (Dec 2024) | Qwen3 8B |
|---|---|---|
| SciCode | — | 22.6% |
| WeirdML | 22.2% | — |
| LiveBench Coding | 46.4% | — |
| LMArena Coding | 1287 | — |
Agentic & Tool Use Not comparable
Grok-2 (Dec 2024): —, Qwen3 8B: 30.2 (#78)
| Benchmark | Grok-2 (Dec 2024) | Qwen3 8B |
|---|---|---|
| Berkeley Function Calling Leaderboard | — | 42.6% |
Reasoning Too close to call
Grok-2 (Dec 2024): 16.9 (#299), Qwen3 8B: 16.6 (#303)
| Benchmark | Grok-2 (Dec 2024) | Qwen3 8B |
|---|---|---|
| DTBench | 65.2% | 59.7% |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | 130.48 | 136.17 |
| SimpleBench | 22.7% | — |
| CritPt | — | 0% |
| Chess Puzzles | — | 5% |
| LiveBench Reasoning | 54.8% | — |
| LMArena Hard Prompts | 1272 | — |
| LiveBench Data Analysis | 54.5% | — |
| LMCA | — | 8.8% |
| LiveBench | 54.3% | — |
Math Qwen3 8B leads
Grok-2 (Dec 2024): 20.8 (#284), Qwen3 8B: 34.9 (#191)
| Benchmark | Grok-2 (Dec 2024) | Qwen3 8B |
|---|---|---|
| OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025 | 11.5% | 56.1% |
| LiveBench Math | 54.9% | — |
| LMArena Math | 1283 | — |
| MATH Level 5 | 63.5% | — |
| FrontierMath (Feb 2025 set) | 0.7% | — |
Knowledge Qwen3 8B leads
Grok-2 (Dec 2024): 29.8 (#233), Qwen3 8B: 36.1 (#173)
| Benchmark | Grok-2 (Dec 2024) | Qwen3 8B |
|---|---|---|
| GPQA Diamond | 53.8% | 56.8% |
| Confabulations | 20.1% | — |
| Vectara Hallucination Rate | — | 4.8% |
| LMArena Expert | 1254 | — |
Multilingual Not comparable
Grok-2 (Dec 2024): 43.1 (#188), Qwen3 8B: —
| Benchmark | Grok-2 (Dec 2024) | Qwen3 8B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | 1282 | — |
| LMArena Chinese | 1289 | — |
| LMArena French | 1318 | — |
| LMArena German | 1287 | — |
| LMArena Japanese | 1244 | — |
| LMArena Korean | 1237 | — |
| LMArena Russian | 1286 | — |
| LMArena Spanish | 1281 | — |
Instruction Following Not comparable
Grok-2 (Dec 2024): 66.9 (#202), Qwen3 8B: —
| Benchmark | Grok-2 (Dec 2024) | Qwen3 8B |
|---|---|---|
| LiveBench Instruction Following | 69.6% | — |
| LMArena Instruction Following | 1270 | — |
Long Context Too close to call
Grok-2 (Dec 2024): 38.8 (#190), Qwen3 8B: 37.9 (#210)
| Benchmark | Grok-2 (Dec 2024) | Qwen3 8B |
|---|---|---|
| Fiction.LiveBench | — | 62.1% |
| LMArena Longer Query | 1276 | — |
Writing & Preference Not comparable
Grok-2 (Dec 2024): 48.6 (#198), Qwen3 8B: —
| Benchmark | Grok-2 (Dec 2024) | Qwen3 8B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | 1305 | — |
| LMArena Creative Writing | 1284 | — |
| Short-Story Creative Writing | 63.6% | — |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | 1290 | — |
| LiveBench Language | 45.6% | — |
Frequently asked questions
Is Grok-2 (Dec 2024) better than Qwen3 8B?
Grok-2 (Dec 2024) and Qwen3 8B score almost the same on the Noometry Index (33.7 vs 33.7), so choose on price, context window or the category you care about most.
Is Grok-2 (Dec 2024) or Qwen3 8B better for coding?
They score almost the same on coding (33.3 vs 34.0); test both on your own repository before choosing.
How many benchmarks do Grok-2 (Dec 2024) and Qwen3 8B share?
4 benchmarks have published results for both models. Grok-2 (Dec 2024) has 34 scored results on Noometry and Qwen3 8B has 11.