Noometry

Model comparison

Grok-3 mini vs Qwen3.8 Max

Qwen3.8 Max is the stronger model overall, scoring 56.8 to 41.2 on the Noometry Index.

Last verified . 20 shared benchmarks.

Grok-3 mini xAI

41.2

Rank #141 Confirmed

Qwen3.8 Max Alibaba (Qwen)

56.8

Rank #22 Confirmed

Summary

  • They share 20 benchmarks with published results for both. Grok-3 mini scores higher in 1 category and Qwen3.8 Max in 7 categories; 7 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
  • The widest gap is in reasoning, where Qwen3.8 Max leads 54.4 to 13.6.
  • The biggest single-benchmark swing is OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025: 77.8% for Grok-3 mini and 100% for Qwen3.8 Max.

Side by side

Grok-3 miniQwen3.8 Max
ProviderxAIAlibaba (Qwen)
Noometry Index41.256.8
Released2025-04-092026-08-02
WeightsProprietaryProprietary
Context window—1M
Max output—131K
Input $ / M tokens—$2
Output $ / M tokens—$6
Results tracked3539

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Category by category

Coding Qwen3.8 Max leads

Grok-3 mini: 40.8 (#131), Qwen3.8 Max: 53.5 (#29)

BenchmarkGrok-3 miniQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Coding13791502
DeepSWE—57.5%
Aider Polyglot49.3%—
LMArena WebDev—1674
FrontierSWE—17.8%
SciCode—53.2%
WeirdML42.6%—

Agentic & Tool Use Not comparable

Grok-3 mini: —, Qwen3.8 Max: 45.4 (#14)

BenchmarkGrok-3 miniQwen3.8 Max
APEX-Agents—63.3%
τ²-bench Banking—55.1%
GDP.pdf—23.2%

Reasoning Qwen3.8 Max leads

Grok-3 mini: 13.6 (#334), Qwen3.8 Max: 54.4 (#26)

BenchmarkGrok-3 miniQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Hard Prompts13751496
Epoch Capabilities Index140.35156.41
ARC-AGI-20.4%—
Kagi LLM Benchmark61.3%—
NYT Connections (extended)—88.3%
ARC-AGI-116.5%—
CritPt—20%
Chess Puzzles—40%
Mystery Game Puzzles—38%
DTBench—92%
LMCA—46.2%

Math Qwen3.8 Max leads

Grok-3 mini: 42.1 (#85), Qwen3.8 Max: 73.2 (#20)

BenchmarkGrok-3 miniQwen3.8 Max
OTIS Mock AIME 2024-202577.8%100%
LMArena Math13861499
FrontierMath (Tiers 1-3)—74.7%
FrontierMath Tier 4—46.3%
ProofBench—58%
Omni-MATH31.8%—
MATH Level 590.9%—
FrontierMath (Feb 2025 set)5.9%—

Knowledge Qwen3.8 Max leads

Grok-3 mini: 46.4 (#81), Qwen3.8 Max: 61.7 (#27)

BenchmarkGrok-3 miniQwen3.8 Max
GPQA Diamond76.3%92.7%
LMArena Expert13951507
SimpleQA Verified—47.3%
MMLU-Pro79.9%—
Confabulations10.8%—
GPQA (HELM)67.5%—

Multimodal Not comparable

Grok-3 mini: —, Qwen3.8 Max: 37.2 (#75)

BenchmarkGrok-3 miniQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Vision—1314
Furniture Assembly—20%

Multilingual Qwen3.8 Max leads

Grok-3 mini: 48.1 (#145), Qwen3.8 Max: 56.7 (#18)

BenchmarkGrok-3 miniQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Non-English13521472
LMArena Chinese13871538
LMArena French13571503
LMArena German13491483
LMArena Japanese13421467
LMArena Korean13351461
LMArena Russian13531481
LMArena Spanish13811492

Instruction Following Too close to call

Grok-3 mini: 78.5 (#9), Qwen3.8 Max: 77.6 (#17)

BenchmarkGrok-3 miniQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Instruction Following13571479
IFEval95.1%—

Long Context Qwen3.8 Max leads

Grok-3 mini: 41.0 (#147), Qwen3.8 Max: 45.6 (#31)

BenchmarkGrok-3 miniQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Longer Query13721489
Fiction.LiveBench66.7%—

Writing & Preference Qwen3.8 Max leads

Grok-3 mini: 52.5 (#169), Qwen3.8 Max: 67.1 (#30)

BenchmarkGrok-3 miniQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Text13701483
LMArena Creative Writing13421479
LMArena Multi-Turn13551489
Short-Story Creative Writing73.5%—
WildBench65.1%—

Frequently asked questions

Is Grok-3 mini better than Qwen3.8 Max?

Qwen3.8 Max is the stronger model overall, scoring 56.8 to 41.2 on the Noometry Index.

Is Grok-3 mini or Qwen3.8 Max better for coding?

Qwen3.8 Max scores higher on coding benchmarks: 53.5 versus 40.8 in the Noometry coding category.

How many benchmarks do Grok-3 mini and Qwen3.8 Max share?

20 benchmarks have published results for both models. Grok-3 mini has 35 scored results on Noometry and Qwen3.8 Max has 39.

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