Model comparison
Llama 3.2 90B vs Qwen3.8 Max
Qwen3.8 Max is the stronger model overall, scoring 56.8 to 27.5 on the Noometry Index.
Last verified . 4 shared benchmarks.
Summary
- They share 4 benchmarks with published results for both. Llama 3.2 90B scores higher in 0 categories and Qwen3.8 Max in 5 categories; 5 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
- The widest gap is in math, where Qwen3.8 Max leads 73.2 to 11.1.
- The biggest single-benchmark swing is OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025: 2.6% for Llama 3.2 90B and 100% for Qwen3.8 Max.
- Llama 3.2 90B has downloadable open weights; the other is API-only.
Side by side
| Llama 3.2 90B | Qwen3.8 Max | |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | Meta | Alibaba (Qwen) |
| Noometry Index | 27.5 | 56.8 |
| Released | 2024-09-24 | 2026-08-02 |
| Weights | Open | Proprietary |
| Context window | — | 1M |
| Max output | — | 131K |
| Input $ / M tokens | — | $2 |
| Output $ / M tokens | — | $6 |
| Results tracked | 9 | 39 |
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Category by category
Coding Not comparable
Llama 3.2 90B: —, Qwen3.8 Max: 53.5 (#29)
| Benchmark | Llama 3.2 90B | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| DeepSWE | — | 57.5% |
| LMArena WebDev | — | 1674 |
| FrontierSWE | — | 17.8% |
| SciCode | — | 53.2% |
| LMArena Coding | — | 1502 |
Agentic & Tool Use Qwen3.8 Max leads
Llama 3.2 90B: 30.0 (#80), Qwen3.8 Max: 45.4 (#14)
| Benchmark | Llama 3.2 90B | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| APEX-Agents | — | 63.3% |
| τ²-bench Banking | — | 55.1% |
| BALROG | 27.3% | — |
| GDP.pdf | — | 23.2% |
Reasoning Qwen3.8 Max leads
Llama 3.2 90B: 21.7 (#217), Qwen3.8 Max: 54.4 (#26)
| Benchmark | Llama 3.2 90B | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| Epoch Capabilities Index | 125.5 | 156.41 |
| NYT Connections (extended) | — | 88.3% |
| CritPt | — | 20% |
| Chess Puzzles | — | 40% |
| EnigmaEval | 0.4% | — |
| LMArena Hard Prompts | — | 1496 |
| Mystery Game Puzzles | — | 38% |
| DTBench | — | 92% |
| LMCA | — | 46.2% |
Math Qwen3.8 Max leads
Llama 3.2 90B: 11.1 (#308), Qwen3.8 Max: 73.2 (#20)
| Benchmark | Llama 3.2 90B | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025 | 2.6% | 100% |
| FrontierMath (Tiers 1-3) | — | 74.7% |
| FrontierMath Tier 4 | — | 46.3% |
| ProofBench | — | 58% |
| LMArena Math | — | 1499 |
| MATH Level 5 | 39.4% | — |
Knowledge Qwen3.8 Max leads
Llama 3.2 90B: 21.7 (#274), Qwen3.8 Max: 61.7 (#27)
| Benchmark | Llama 3.2 90B | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| GPQA Diamond | 41% | 92.7% |
| SimpleQA Verified | — | 47.3% |
| LMArena Expert | — | 1507 |
| MMLU | 80.3% | — |
Multimodal Qwen3.8 Max leads
Llama 3.2 90B: 25.4 (#124), Qwen3.8 Max: 37.2 (#75)
| Benchmark | Llama 3.2 90B | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Vision | 1000 | 1314 |
| GeoBench | 52% | — |
| Furniture Assembly | — | 20% |
Multilingual Not comparable
Llama 3.2 90B: —, Qwen3.8 Max: 56.7 (#18)
| Benchmark | Llama 3.2 90B | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | — | 1472 |
| LMArena Chinese | — | 1538 |
| LMArena French | — | 1503 |
| LMArena German | — | 1483 |
| LMArena Japanese | — | 1467 |
| LMArena Korean | — | 1461 |
| LMArena Russian | — | 1481 |
| LMArena Spanish | — | 1492 |
Instruction Following Not comparable
Llama 3.2 90B: —, Qwen3.8 Max: 77.6 (#17)
| Benchmark | Llama 3.2 90B | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | — | 1479 |
Long Context Not comparable
Llama 3.2 90B: —, Qwen3.8 Max: 45.6 (#31)
| Benchmark | Llama 3.2 90B | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Longer Query | — | 1489 |
Writing & Preference Not comparable
Llama 3.2 90B: —, Qwen3.8 Max: 67.1 (#30)
| Benchmark | Llama 3.2 90B | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | — | 1483 |
| LMArena Creative Writing | — | 1479 |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | — | 1489 |
Frequently asked questions
Is Llama 3.2 90B better than Qwen3.8 Max?
Qwen3.8 Max is the stronger model overall, scoring 56.8 to 27.5 on the Noometry Index.
How many benchmarks do Llama 3.2 90B and Qwen3.8 Max share?
4 benchmarks have published results for both models. Llama 3.2 90B has 9 scored results on Noometry and Qwen3.8 Max has 39.