Model comparison

Llama 3.2 90B vs Qwen3.8 Max

Qwen3.8 Max is the stronger model overall, scoring 56.8 to 27.5 on the Noometry Index.

Last verified . 4 shared benchmarks.

Llama 3.2 90B Meta

27.5

Rank #331 Confirmed

Qwen3.8 Max Alibaba (Qwen)

56.8

Rank #22 Confirmed

Summary

  • They share 4 benchmarks with published results for both. Llama 3.2 90B scores higher in 0 categories and Qwen3.8 Max in 5 categories; 5 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
  • The widest gap is in math, where Qwen3.8 Max leads 73.2 to 11.1.
  • The biggest single-benchmark swing is OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025: 2.6% for Llama 3.2 90B and 100% for Qwen3.8 Max.
  • Llama 3.2 90B has downloadable open weights; the other is API-only.

Side by side

Llama 3.2 90B and Qwen3.8 Max specifications
Llama 3.2 90BQwen3.8 Max
ProviderMetaAlibaba (Qwen)
Noometry Index27.556.8
Released2024-09-242026-08-02
WeightsOpenProprietary
Context window—1M
Max output—131K
Input $ / M tokens—$2
Output $ / M tokens—$6
Results tracked939

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Category by category

Coding Not comparable

Llama 3.2 90B: —, Qwen3.8 Max: 53.5 (#29)

Coding benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3.2 90BQwen3.8 Max
DeepSWE—57.5%
LMArena WebDev—1674
FrontierSWE—17.8%
SciCode—53.2%
LMArena Coding—1502

Agentic & Tool Use Qwen3.8 Max leads

Llama 3.2 90B: 30.0 (#80), Qwen3.8 Max: 45.4 (#14)

Agentic & Tool Use benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3.2 90BQwen3.8 Max
APEX-Agents—63.3%
τ²-bench Banking—55.1%
BALROG27.3%—
GDP.pdf—23.2%

Reasoning Qwen3.8 Max leads

Llama 3.2 90B: 21.7 (#217), Qwen3.8 Max: 54.4 (#26)

Reasoning benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3.2 90BQwen3.8 Max
Epoch Capabilities Index125.5156.41
NYT Connections (extended)—88.3%
CritPt—20%
Chess Puzzles—40%
EnigmaEval0.4%—
LMArena Hard Prompts—1496
Mystery Game Puzzles—38%
DTBench—92%
LMCA—46.2%

Math Qwen3.8 Max leads

Llama 3.2 90B: 11.1 (#308), Qwen3.8 Max: 73.2 (#20)

Math benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3.2 90BQwen3.8 Max
OTIS Mock AIME 2024-20252.6%100%
FrontierMath (Tiers 1-3)—74.7%
FrontierMath Tier 4—46.3%
ProofBench—58%
LMArena Math—1499
MATH Level 539.4%—

Knowledge Qwen3.8 Max leads

Llama 3.2 90B: 21.7 (#274), Qwen3.8 Max: 61.7 (#27)

Knowledge benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3.2 90BQwen3.8 Max
GPQA Diamond41%92.7%
SimpleQA Verified—47.3%
LMArena Expert—1507
MMLU80.3%—

Multimodal Qwen3.8 Max leads

Llama 3.2 90B: 25.4 (#124), Qwen3.8 Max: 37.2 (#75)

Multimodal benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3.2 90BQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Vision10001314
GeoBench52%—
Furniture Assembly—20%

Multilingual Not comparable

Llama 3.2 90B: —, Qwen3.8 Max: 56.7 (#18)

Multilingual benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3.2 90BQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Non-English—1472
LMArena Chinese—1538
LMArena French—1503
LMArena German—1483
LMArena Japanese—1467
LMArena Korean—1461
LMArena Russian—1481
LMArena Spanish—1492

Instruction Following Not comparable

Llama 3.2 90B: —, Qwen3.8 Max: 77.6 (#17)

Instruction Following benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3.2 90BQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Instruction Following—1479

Long Context Not comparable

Llama 3.2 90B: —, Qwen3.8 Max: 45.6 (#31)

Long Context benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3.2 90BQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Longer Query—1489

Writing & Preference Not comparable

Llama 3.2 90B: —, Qwen3.8 Max: 67.1 (#30)

Writing & Preference benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3.2 90BQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Text—1483
LMArena Creative Writing—1479
LMArena Multi-Turn—1489

Frequently asked questions

Is Llama 3.2 90B better than Qwen3.8 Max?

Qwen3.8 Max is the stronger model overall, scoring 56.8 to 27.5 on the Noometry Index.

How many benchmarks do Llama 3.2 90B and Qwen3.8 Max share?

4 benchmarks have published results for both models. Llama 3.2 90B has 9 scored results on Noometry and Qwen3.8 Max has 39.

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