Model comparison

Llama 3-8B vs Palm 2

Palm 2 is the stronger model overall, scoring 29.4 to 25.3 on the Noometry Index.

Last verified . 10 shared benchmarks.

Llama 3-8B Meta

25.3

Rank #338 Confirmed

Palm 2 Google

29.4

Rank #296 Confirmed

Summary

  • They share 10 benchmarks with published results for both. Llama 3-8B scores higher in 5 categories and Palm 2 in 2 categories; 7 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
  • The widest gap is in math, where Palm 2 leads 28.4 to 8.3.
  • Llama 3-8B has downloadable open weights; the other is API-only.

Side by side

Llama 3-8B and Palm 2 specifications
Llama 3-8BPalm 2
ProviderMetaGoogle
Noometry Index25.329.4
Released2024-04-18—
WeightsOpenProprietary
Context window8K—
Max output8K—
Input $ / M tokens$0.14—
Output $ / M tokens$0.14—
Results tracked3410

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Category by category

Coding Llama 3-8B leads

Llama 3-8B: 30.5 (#285), Palm 2: 28.5 (#306)

Coding benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3-8BPalm 2
LMArena Coding1152995
BigCodeBench Instruct31.9%—
BigCodeBench Complete36.9%—
HumanEval+56.7%—
MBPP+54.8%—

Reasoning Palm 2 leads

Llama 3-8B: 13.8 (#321), Palm 2: 18.2 (#270)

Reasoning benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3-8BPalm 2
LMArena Hard Prompts11331005
Chess Puzzles0%—
DTBench43.9%—
Adversarial NLI57.3%—
Epoch Capabilities Index116.33—
ForecastBench58.6—
WinoGrande75.7%—

Math Palm 2 leads

Llama 3-8B: 8.3 (#317), Palm 2: 28.4 (#229)

Math benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3-8BPalm 2
LMArena Math11511049
OTIS Mock AIME 2024-20251.9%—
MATH Level 56.1%—

Knowledge Not comparable

Llama 3-8B: 7.8 (#303), Palm 2: —

Knowledge benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3-8BPalm 2
GPQA Diamond26.1%—
LMArena Expert1113—
ARC (AI2) Challenge82.8%—
MMLU68.8%—
OpenBookQA82.6%—
TriviaQA67.7%—

Multilingual Llama 3-8B leads

Llama 3-8B: 31.0 (#256), Palm 2: 21.1 (#290)

Multilingual benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3-8BPalm 2
LMArena Non-English1098916
LMArena Chinese1076887
LMArena French1158—
LMArena German1104—
LMArena Japanese967—
LMArena Korean1003—
LMArena Russian1109—
LMArena Spanish1172—

Instruction Following Llama 3-8B leads

Llama 3-8B: 58.7 (#255), Palm 2: 51.3 (#291)

Instruction Following benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3-8BPalm 2
LMArena Instruction Following11271010

Long Context Llama 3-8B leads

Llama 3-8B: 34.2 (#246), Palm 2: 30.7 (#280)

Long Context benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3-8BPalm 2
LMArena Longer Query11281010

Writing & Preference Llama 3-8B leads

Llama 3-8B: 37.7 (#251), Palm 2: 25.7 (#299)

Writing & Preference benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3-8BPalm 2
LMArena Text11661027
LMArena Creative Writing1150991
LMArena Multi-Turn1152994

Frequently asked questions

Is Llama 3-8B better than Palm 2?

Palm 2 is the stronger model overall, scoring 29.4 to 25.3 on the Noometry Index.

Is Llama 3-8B or Palm 2 better for coding?

Llama 3-8B scores higher on coding benchmarks: 30.5 versus 28.5 in the Noometry coding category.

How many benchmarks do Llama 3-8B and Palm 2 share?

10 benchmarks have published results for both models. Llama 3-8B has 34 scored results on Noometry and Palm 2 has 10.

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