Model comparison
Phi 3 Medium 4k Instruct vs Qwen2.5 72B Instruct
Phi 3 Medium 4k Instruct and Qwen2.5 72B Instruct score almost the same on the Noometry Index (32.4 vs 31.5), so choose on price, context window or the category you care about most.
Last verified . 17 shared benchmarks.
Microsoft
Alibaba (Qwen)Summary
- They share 17 benchmarks with published results for both. Phi 3 Medium 4k Instruct scores higher in 2 categories and Qwen2.5 72B Instruct in 6 categories; 6 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
- The widest gap is in math, where Phi 3 Medium 4k Instruct leads 30.9 to 18.1.
Side by side
| Phi 3 Medium 4k Instruct | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct | |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | Microsoft | Alibaba (Qwen) |
| Noometry Index | 32.4 | 31.5 |
| Released | — | 2024-09 |
| Weights | Open | Open |
| Context window | — | 131K |
| Max output | — | 8K |
| Input $ / M tokens | — | $1.40 |
| Output $ / M tokens | — | $5.60 |
| Results tracked | 17 | 43 |
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Category by category
Coding Too close to call
Phi 3 Medium 4k Instruct: 32.3 (#263), Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 32.8 (#256)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Medium 4k Instruct | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Coding | 1130 | 1293 |
| WeirdML | — | 16% |
| BigCodeBench Instruct | — | 45.8% |
| BigCodeBench Complete | — | 55.9% |
Agentic & Tool Use Not comparable
Phi 3 Medium 4k Instruct: —, Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 22.0 (#124)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Medium 4k Instruct | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| TheAgentCompany | — | 5.7% |
| BALROG | — | 16.2% |
| METR Time Horizons | — | 35.8% |
Reasoning Too close to call
Phi 3 Medium 4k Instruct: 20.8 (#214), Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 21.4 (#197)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Medium 4k Instruct | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Hard Prompts | 1127 | 1271 |
| DTBench | — | 62.9% |
| LMCA | — | 13.4% |
| BIG-Bench Hard | — | 79.8% |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | — | 129.01 |
| ForecastBench | — | 57.5 |
| HellaSwag | — | 84.8% |
| PIQA | — | 82.6% |
| WinoGrande | — | 82.3% |
Math Phi 3 Medium 4k Instruct leads
Phi 3 Medium 4k Instruct: 30.9 (#202), Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 18.1 (#281)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Medium 4k Instruct | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Math | 1173 | 1283 |
| OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025 | — | 8.1% |
| Omni-MATH | — | 33% |
| MATH Level 5 | — | 63.2% |
Knowledge Phi 3 Medium 4k Instruct leads
Phi 3 Medium 4k Instruct: 29.6 (#226), Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 26.9 (#247)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Medium 4k Instruct | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Expert | 1108 | 1245 |
| GPQA Diamond | — | 49.1% |
| MMLU-Pro | — | 63.1% |
| Confabulations | — | 19.1% |
| GPQA (HELM) | — | 42.6% |
| ARC (AI2) Challenge | — | 94.5% |
| MMLU | — | 85.3% |
| TriviaQA | — | 71.9% |
Multilingual Qwen2.5 72B Instruct leads
Phi 3 Medium 4k Instruct: 30.8 (#258), Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 41.2 (#208)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Medium 4k Instruct | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | 1094 | 1252 |
| LMArena Chinese | 1108 | 1272 |
| LMArena French | 1109 | 1279 |
| LMArena German | 1101 | 1234 |
| LMArena Japanese | 1042 | 1180 |
| LMArena Korean | 954 | 1188 |
| LMArena Russian | 1145 | 1264 |
| LMArena Spanish | 1095 | 1255 |
Instruction Following Qwen2.5 72B Instruct leads
Phi 3 Medium 4k Instruct: 57.8 (#263), Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 65.7 (#216)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Medium 4k Instruct | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | 1114 | 1254 |
| IFEval | — | 80.6% |
Long Context Qwen2.5 72B Instruct leads
Phi 3 Medium 4k Instruct: 33.9 (#250), Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 38.9 (#183)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Medium 4k Instruct | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Longer Query | 1120 | 1282 |
Writing & Preference Qwen2.5 72B Instruct leads
Phi 3 Medium 4k Instruct: 34.3 (#267), Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 46.9 (#210)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Medium 4k Instruct | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | 1138 | 1269 |
| LMArena Creative Writing | 1106 | 1221 |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | 1088 | 1272 |
| WildBench | — | 80.2% |
Frequently asked questions
Is Phi 3 Medium 4k Instruct better than Qwen2.5 72B Instruct?
Phi 3 Medium 4k Instruct and Qwen2.5 72B Instruct score almost the same on the Noometry Index (32.4 vs 31.5), so choose on price, context window or the category you care about most.
Is Phi 3 Medium 4k Instruct or Qwen2.5 72B Instruct better for coding?
They score almost the same on coding (32.3 vs 32.8); test both on your own repository before choosing.
How many benchmarks do Phi 3 Medium 4k Instruct and Qwen2.5 72B Instruct share?
17 benchmarks have published results for both models. Phi 3 Medium 4k Instruct has 17 scored results on Noometry and Qwen2.5 72B Instruct has 43.