Model comparison

Qwen3.8 Max vs Sonar

Qwen3.8 Max is the stronger model overall, scoring 56.8 to 38.5 on the Noometry Index. Sonar costs 3.0× less per token, which makes it the better buy when Qwen3.8 Max's lead doesn't matter for your workload.

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Qwen3.8 Max Alibaba (Qwen)

56.8

Rank #22 Confirmed

Sonar Perplexity

38.5

Rank #187 Confirmed

Summary

  • The widest gap is in math, where Qwen3.8 Max leads 73.2 to 33.7.
  • Sonar is cheaper at $1 / $1 per million input/output tokens, against $2 / $6 for Qwen3.8 Max.
  • Qwen3.8 Max accepts more context: 1M tokens versus 128K.

Side by side

Qwen3.8 Max and Sonar specifications
Qwen3.8 MaxSonar
ProviderAlibaba (Qwen)Perplexity
Noometry Index56.838.5
Released2026-08-022024-01-01
WeightsProprietaryProprietary
Context window1M128K
Max output131K4K
Input $ / M tokens$2$1
Output $ / M tokens$6$1
Results tracked397

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Category by category

Coding Qwen3.8 Max leads

Qwen3.8 Max: 53.5 (#29), Sonar: 35.7 (#221)

Coding benchmarks
BenchmarkQwen3.8 MaxSonar
DeepSWE57.5%—
LMArena WebDev1674—
FrontierSWE17.8%—
SciCode53.2%—
LiveBench Coding—35.1%
LMArena Coding1502—

Agentic & Tool Use Not comparable

Qwen3.8 Max: 45.4 (#14), Sonar: —

Agentic & Tool Use benchmarks
BenchmarkQwen3.8 MaxSonar
APEX-Agents63.3%—
τ²-bench Banking55.1%—
GDP.pdf23.2%—

Reasoning Qwen3.8 Max leads

Qwen3.8 Max: 54.4 (#26), Sonar: 21.1 (#227)

Reasoning benchmarks
BenchmarkQwen3.8 MaxSonar
NYT Connections (extended)88.3%—
CritPt20%—
Chess Puzzles40%—
LiveBench Reasoning—46.3%
LMArena Hard Prompts1496—
Mystery Game Puzzles38%—
DTBench92%—
LiveBench Data Analysis—37.9%
LMCA46.2%—
Epoch Capabilities Index156.41—
LiveBench—46.9%

Math Qwen3.8 Max leads

Qwen3.8 Max: 73.2 (#20), Sonar: 33.7 (#200)

Math benchmarks
BenchmarkQwen3.8 MaxSonar
FrontierMath (Tiers 1-3)74.7%—
FrontierMath Tier 446.3%—
OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025100%—
ProofBench58%—
LiveBench Math—41.6%
LMArena Math1499—

Knowledge Not comparable

Qwen3.8 Max: 61.7 (#27), Sonar: —

Knowledge benchmarks
BenchmarkQwen3.8 MaxSonar
GPQA Diamond92.7%—
SimpleQA Verified47.3%—
LMArena Expert1507—

Multimodal Not comparable

Qwen3.8 Max: 37.2 (#75), Sonar: —

Multimodal benchmarks
BenchmarkQwen3.8 MaxSonar
LMArena Vision1314—
Furniture Assembly20%—

Multilingual Not comparable

Qwen3.8 Max: 56.7 (#18), Sonar: —

Multilingual benchmarks
BenchmarkQwen3.8 MaxSonar
LMArena Non-English1472—
LMArena Chinese1538—
LMArena French1503—
LMArena German1483—
LMArena Japanese1467—
LMArena Korean1461—
LMArena Russian1481—
LMArena Spanish1492—

Instruction Following Qwen3.8 Max leads

Qwen3.8 Max: 77.6 (#17), Sonar: 71.4 (#150)

Instruction Following benchmarks
BenchmarkQwen3.8 MaxSonar
LiveBench Instruction Following—76.2%
LMArena Instruction Following1479—

Long Context Not comparable

Qwen3.8 Max: 45.6 (#31), Sonar: —

Long Context benchmarks
BenchmarkQwen3.8 MaxSonar
LMArena Longer Query1489—

Writing & Preference Qwen3.8 Max leads

Qwen3.8 Max: 67.1 (#30), Sonar: 52.6 (#167)

Writing & Preference benchmarks
BenchmarkQwen3.8 MaxSonar
LMArena Text1483—
LMArena Creative Writing1479—
LMArena Multi-Turn1489—
LiveBench Language—44.1%

Frequently asked questions

Is Qwen3.8 Max better than Sonar?

Qwen3.8 Max is the stronger model overall, scoring 56.8 to 38.5 on the Noometry Index. Sonar costs 3.0× less per token, which makes it the better buy when Qwen3.8 Max's lead doesn't matter for your workload.

Which is cheaper, Qwen3.8 Max or Sonar?

Sonar is cheaper. It lists at $1 per million input tokens and $1 per million output tokens; Qwen3.8 Max lists at $2 and $6.

Is Qwen3.8 Max or Sonar better for coding?

Qwen3.8 Max scores higher on coding benchmarks: 53.5 versus 35.7 in the Noometry coding category.

Which has the bigger context window?

Qwen3.8 Max does, with 1M tokens against 128K.

How many benchmarks do Qwen3.8 Max and Sonar share?

0 benchmarks have published results for both models. Qwen3.8 Max has 39 scored results on Noometry and Sonar has 7.

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