Model comparison
GPT-4o vs Qwen3.8 Max
Qwen3.8 Max is the stronger model overall, scoring 56.8 to 28.6 on the Noometry Index.
Last verified . 27 shared benchmarks.
Alibaba (Qwen)Summary
- They share 27 benchmarks with published results for both. GPT-4o scores higher in 0 categories and Qwen3.8 Max in 10 categories; 10 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
- The widest gap is in math, where Qwen3.8 Max leads 73.2 to 10.6.
- The biggest single-benchmark swing is OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025: 6.4% for GPT-4o and 100% for Qwen3.8 Max.
- Qwen3.8 Max is cheaper at $2 / $6 per million input/output tokens, against $2.50 / $10 for GPT-4o.
- Qwen3.8 Max accepts more context: 1M tokens versus 128K.
Side by side
| GPT-4o | Qwen3.8 Max | |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | OpenAI | Alibaba (Qwen) |
| Noometry Index | 28.6 | 56.8 |
| Released | 2024-05-13 | 2026-08-02 |
| Weights | Proprietary | Proprietary |
| Context window | 128K | 1M |
| Max output | 16K | 131K |
| Input $ / M tokens | $2.50 | $2 |
| Output $ / M tokens | $10 | $6 |
| Results tracked | 72 | 39 |
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Category by category
Coding Qwen3.8 Max leads
GPT-4o: 24.8 (#328), Qwen3.8 Max: 53.5 (#29)
| Benchmark | GPT-4o | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Coding | 1297 | 1502 |
| SWE-bench Verified | 31% | — |
| DeepSWE | — | 57.5% |
| SWE-bench Verified (bash only) | 21.6% | — |
| Aider Polyglot | 45.3% | — |
| LMArena WebDev | — | 1674 |
| FrontierSWE | — | 17.8% |
| SciCode | — | 53.2% |
| GSO | 0% | — |
| WeirdML | 25.1% | — |
| BigCodeBench Instruct | 51.1% | — |
| LiveBench Coding | 51.4% | — |
| BigCodeBench Complete | 61.1% | — |
| CadEval | 26% | — |
| HumanEval+ | 87.2% | — |
| MBPP+ | 72.2% | — |
Agentic & Tool Use Qwen3.8 Max leads
GPT-4o: 21.0 (#141), Qwen3.8 Max: 45.4 (#14)
| Benchmark | GPT-4o | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| APEX-Agents | — | 63.3% |
| GDPval | 9.9% | — |
| TheAgentCompany | 8.6% | — |
| τ²-bench Banking | — | 55.1% |
| Cybench | 12.5% | — |
| BALROG | 32.3% | — |
| GDP.pdf | — | 23.2% |
| LMArena Search | 1006 | — |
| METR Time Horizons | 40.8% | — |
Reasoning Qwen3.8 Max leads
GPT-4o: 9.4 (#343), Qwen3.8 Max: 54.4 (#26)
| Benchmark | GPT-4o | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| CritPt | 0% | 20% |
| Chess Puzzles | 13% | 40% |
| LMArena Hard Prompts | 1281 | 1496 |
| DTBench | 64.5% | 92% |
| LMCA | 16.6% | 46.2% |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | 128.97 | 156.41 |
| ARC-AGI-2 | 0% | — |
| SimpleBench | 17.8% | — |
| NYT Connections (extended) | — | 88.3% |
| ARC-AGI-1 | 4.5% | — |
| EnigmaEval | 0.8% | — |
| LiveBench Reasoning | 55.8% | — |
| Mystery Game Puzzles | — | 38% |
| LiveBench Data Analysis | 60.9% | — |
| ForecastBench | 57.7 | — |
| LiveBench | 55.3% | — |
Math Qwen3.8 Max leads
GPT-4o: 10.6 (#312), Qwen3.8 Max: 73.2 (#20)
| Benchmark | GPT-4o | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| FrontierMath (Tiers 1-3) | 0.4% | 74.7% |
| OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025 | 6.4% | 100% |
| LMArena Math | 1285 | 1499 |
| FrontierMath Tier 4 | — | 46.3% |
| ProofBench | — | 58% |
| Omni-MATH | 29.3% | — |
| LiveBench Math | 49.5% | — |
| MATH Level 5 | 53.3% | — |
| FrontierMath (Feb 2025 set) | 0.3% | — |
Knowledge Qwen3.8 Max leads
GPT-4o: 28.8 (#242), Qwen3.8 Max: 61.7 (#27)
| Benchmark | GPT-4o | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| GPQA Diamond | 49.2% | 92.7% |
| SimpleQA Verified | 26% | 47.3% |
| LMArena Expert | 1250 | 1507 |
| Humanity's Last Exam | 2.7% | — |
| MMLU-Pro | 71.3% | — |
| Confabulations | 15.3% | — |
| Vectara Hallucination Rate | 9.6% | — |
| GPQA (HELM) | 52% | — |
| MMLU | 88.1% | — |
Multimodal Qwen3.8 Max leads
GPT-4o: 34.5 (#91), Qwen3.8 Max: 37.2 (#75)
| Benchmark | GPT-4o | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Vision | 1137 | 1314 |
| Video-MME | 71.9% | — |
| GeoBench | 71% | — |
| VPCT | 40% | — |
| Furniture Assembly | — | 20% |
| ScienceQA | 88.5% | — |
Multilingual Qwen3.8 Max leads
GPT-4o: 43.2 (#186), Qwen3.8 Max: 56.7 (#18)
| Benchmark | GPT-4o | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | 1283 | 1472 |
| LMArena Chinese | 1277 | 1538 |
| LMArena French | 1304 | 1503 |
| LMArena German | 1282 | 1483 |
| LMArena Japanese | 1257 | 1467 |
| LMArena Korean | 1234 | 1461 |
| LMArena Russian | 1286 | 1481 |
| LMArena Spanish | 1292 | 1492 |
Instruction Following Qwen3.8 Max leads
GPT-4o: 66.6 (#207), Qwen3.8 Max: 77.6 (#17)
| Benchmark | GPT-4o | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | 1278 | 1479 |
| LiveBench Instruction Following | 68.6% | — |
| IFEval | 81.7% | — |
Long Context Qwen3.8 Max leads
GPT-4o: 39.4 (#179), Qwen3.8 Max: 45.6 (#31)
| Benchmark | GPT-4o | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Longer Query | 1289 | 1489 |
| Fiction.LiveBench | 66.7% | — |
Writing & Preference Qwen3.8 Max leads
GPT-4o: 52.6 (#166), Qwen3.8 Max: 67.1 (#30)
| Benchmark | GPT-4o | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | 1300 | 1483 |
| LMArena Creative Writing | 1292 | 1479 |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | 1302 | 1489 |
| Short-Story Creative Writing | 81.8% | — |
| WildBench | 82.8% | — |
| LiveBench Language | 47.6% | — |
Frequently asked questions
Is GPT-4o better than Qwen3.8 Max?
Qwen3.8 Max is the stronger model overall, scoring 56.8 to 28.6 on the Noometry Index.
Which is cheaper, GPT-4o or Qwen3.8 Max?
Qwen3.8 Max is cheaper. It lists at $2 per million input tokens and $6 per million output tokens; GPT-4o lists at $2.50 and $10.
Is GPT-4o or Qwen3.8 Max better for coding?
Qwen3.8 Max scores higher on coding benchmarks: 53.5 versus 24.8 in the Noometry coding category.
Which has the bigger context window?
Qwen3.8 Max does, with 1M tokens against 128K.
How many benchmarks do GPT-4o and Qwen3.8 Max share?
27 benchmarks have published results for both models. GPT-4o has 72 scored results on Noometry and Qwen3.8 Max has 39.