Model comparison

Molmo 2 8b vs Palm 2

Molmo 2 8b is the stronger model overall, scoring 39.1 to 30.0 on the Noometry Index.

Last verified . 4 shared benchmarks.

Palm 2 Google

30.0

Rank #298 Confirmed

Summary

  • They share 4 benchmarks with published results for both. Molmo 2 8b scores higher in 4 categories and Palm 2 in 0 categories; 4 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
  • The widest gap is in writing & preference, where Molmo 2 8b leads 49.4 to 25.6.
  • Molmo 2 8b has downloadable open weights; the other is API-only.

Side by side

Molmo 2 8b and Palm 2 specifications
Molmo 2 8bPalm 2
ProviderAllen Institute for AI (Ai2)Google
Noometry Index39.130.0
Released——
WeightsOpenProprietary
Context window——
Max output——
Input $ / M tokens——
Output $ / M tokens——
Results tracked510

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Category by category

Coding Not comparable

Molmo 2 8b: —, Palm 2: 29.0 (#311)

Coding benchmarks
BenchmarkMolmo 2 8bPalm 2
LMArena Coding—994

Reasoning Molmo 2 8b leads

Molmo 2 8b: 25.6 (#146), Palm 2: 19.1 (#271)

Reasoning benchmarks
BenchmarkMolmo 2 8bPalm 2
LMArena Hard Prompts12871005

Math Not comparable

Molmo 2 8b: —, Palm 2: 30.8 (#231)

Math benchmarks
BenchmarkMolmo 2 8bPalm 2
LMArena Math—1049

Multimodal Not comparable

Molmo 2 8b: 30.2 (#112), Palm 2: —

Multimodal benchmarks
BenchmarkMolmo 2 8bPalm 2
LMArena Vision1081—

Multilingual Molmo 2 8b leads

Molmo 2 8b: 42.7 (#190), Palm 2: 20.9 (#295)

Multilingual benchmarks
BenchmarkMolmo 2 8bPalm 2
LMArena Non-English1276916
LMArena Chinese—887

Instruction Following Molmo 2 8b leads

Molmo 2 8b: 67.0 (#201), Palm 2: 51.0 (#296)

Instruction Following benchmarks
BenchmarkMolmo 2 8bPalm 2
LMArena Instruction Following12701010

Long Context Not comparable

Molmo 2 8b: —, Palm 2: 30.8 (#285)

Long Context benchmarks
BenchmarkMolmo 2 8bPalm 2
LMArena Longer Query—1010

Writing & Preference Molmo 2 8b leads

Molmo 2 8b: 49.4 (#191), Palm 2: 25.6 (#304)

Writing & Preference benchmarks
BenchmarkMolmo 2 8bPalm 2
LMArena Text12881027
LMArena Creative Writing—991
LMArena Multi-Turn—994

Frequently asked questions

Is Molmo 2 8b better than Palm 2?

Molmo 2 8b is the stronger model overall, scoring 39.1 to 30.0 on the Noometry Index.

How many benchmarks do Molmo 2 8b and Palm 2 share?

4 benchmarks have published results for both models. Molmo 2 8b has 5 scored results on Noometry and Palm 2 has 10.

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